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  Well its been a while...disfellowshiping, sex, drugs, and I'm diggin it!

  by tsunami_rid3r in

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  i checked my last post, that was march 2007.. .

  i had plans to go to italy for a dig and i just got fired from my suck ass waiting job, but instead i went to a dig in texas for the summer.

  wow was that [edit] cool.

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  Hey, it looks like you got some punctuation, finally. This truly is reason to check in with us. It's pretty rare to be disfellowshipped simply for a bad attitude, particularly when it's a male witness. Your dad must have really pissed them off. Enjoy school, it can't last forever. (BTW, there is no such thing as the "cool geeks." Even in college. Just embrace your geekness and get over it.) Shoshana
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  Dub w/soul patch?

  by La Capra in

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  i was at the gym this morning, pouring myself a cup of coffee and i noticed a sweaty man sitting at a table reading what looked like the small version of the maroon deluxe nwt (the one made out of pig leather that were all the rage in the early 90's before the "donation arrangement").

  (for anyone who cares, he was in revelation.

  ) it also appeared that he had a colorful tract or magazine and the daily text book (are those spiral bound now?

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  I was at the gym this morning, pouring myself a cup of coffee and I noticed a sweaty man sitting at a table reading what looked like the small version of the maroon deluxe NWT (the one made out of pig leather that were all the rage in the early 90's before the "donation arrangement"). (For anyone who cares, he was in revelation.) It also appeared that he had a colorful tract or magazine and the daily text book (Are those spiral bound now? It's the only thing I could think of that could be WTBTS-related). At any rate, along with the WTBTS rags, the man was sporting a soul patch? What's become of the Wine Country Witnesses? Shoshana
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  Last night we went ahead with our DA letter NOW because. . .

  by Pioneer Spit...oh, i mean Spirit in

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  i spoke to my niece yesterday back home and she is getting married in april 08 to a non jw, she was baptized at 15 and has faded well.

  her mother, my evil oldest sister, has told her that she will not be attending nor is she interested in offering support of any kind and i was furious; my husband and i were both enraged enough to add a lot about their evil shunning practice to our already-written letter, and the hate with which they practice it.

  it made the break truly feel completely natural and right, right now, and to quote their evil songbook, now's the time to prove we're true!!!.

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  I can't think of a single "family business" matter that is more important than marriage ceremonies. Marriage is a legal matter that alters family relationships. The parents should be there, on the grounds that it is family business to witness the legal change in their family. My mom was at my wedding (I DAed 20 years ago). She stayed through the whole thing...Jewish ceremony in Hebrew and all!!! Shoshana
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  Affidavit for a court custody battle with a JW mom/Non JW dad

  by Billzfan23 in

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  what kind of things would you put in an affidavit to the court for a custody hearing - list them out in this thread for me so that i can disperse each point across multiple pages, making a strong case.

  i will start:.

  blood transfusions: - jw children are refused blood transfusions that could save their lives.. how about school sports, flag salute, military service, discouraging college education, keeping "seperate from the world", armageddon teachings, etc.. help we fill in a little wordy description and elaborate on each point in this post - it would be very much appreciated!.

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  It is incredibly relevant fo the judge to know that when the children are with the JW parent they will be subjected to five hours a week of conditioning that

  1) Teaches them their non-JW parent is part of Satan and will be destroyed at Armaggedon.

  2) Teaches them that they are not good enough for salvation themselves if they do not spend additional hours (ten) a month in field service trying to teach others the essential idea espouse in item 1.

  3) Teaches them that education, recreation, art, music, sports, or any other type of interest healthy kids might have takes valuable time away from item 2.

  4) Teaches them that because they have these interests (whether they are allowed to participate) and desire to participate, they too will be destroyed at Armaggedon.

  5) Teaches them to "treat as dead" those former members of the church that have left, whether voluntarily or by disfellowshipping-and that this could happen to them too if they don't follow items 2-4.

  6) Teaches them to lie when it is inconvenient to tell the truth, or when the person inquiring doesn't deserve the truth.

  7) Teaches them that should they be abused or molested that going to civil authorities will subject them to item 5.

  8) Teaches them that if they have friends that aren't JWs, those friends are all evil, and in turn, you children will become evil.

  Then it would be important for a judge to know that the children will be kept out late two nights a week, and will be required to spend however many days, all day, at assemblies, special meetings and conventions, sitting quiet all day, listening to all of the above.

  It would also be important for the judge to know that the JW parent would try to prevent life-saving blood transfusions.

  And finally, it would be important for the judge to see the JW parent painted as an individual with a mental dependency on a quasi-religious organization, and that would cause the JW parent to put the organization's needs above the children's, perhaps to the point of shunning them should they at any point reject her belief system. Then demonstrate HOW HARMFUL it is for the children to be loved only conditionally, and that you fear for their emotional. physical, and spiritual well-being if their religious upbringing were left up to the JW parent. (Any facts about the JW parent refusing to miss a meeting when the child was sick, either taking the child while ill, or leaving them and not staying home to care for them?)

  There is a lot more, but the legal standard with child custody is best interest of the child. The key here is to demonstrate how exposure to this religion is not in the best interest of the child.

  Shoshana
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  advice on dealing with mom....please!!!!

  by WANTMOMBACK in

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  ok, so here is the trouble--everytme something bad happens, esp.

  a death, my mother will give whoever the unfortunate families who are greiving a book about being able to see your loved ones again.

  this is wxtremely difficult for me b/c first of all some of these people are close to meand expect me to know what the hell she is talking about!

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  There is ettiquette protocal for dealing with others when they have suffered a loss. Provide her with a book that explains what is proper "in polite society." If she still disregards it, then she is simply rude. And now she knows it, even if she can't help herself. Shoshana
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  ANOTHER SHOOTER NOW - IN CALIFORNIA

  by sammielee24 in

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  as i'm sitting here working on my computer a news story flashed across the screen.

  there is a guy holed up in yuba city, california somewhere that has called in a threat to make the va tech massacre look like a holiday!

  the schools are either in lock down or going into lock down now as they try to find where the guy is - they did show a picture of him and apparently he is equipped with an ak47 and some other miscellaneous things like bombs.

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  Yuba City has an Assembly Hall. Perhaps he's gone there. Shoshana
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  Tomorrow is my Master's Defense (wish me luck)

  by asleif_dufansdottir in

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  tomorrow at 2:45 arizona time i present/defend my master's research to basically the entire department (anthropology...all the 'sub-disciplines'...socio/cultural, physical and archaeology).

  they've changed things a bit in the program so now all grad students who are completing their ma in any given year present on the same day in one big "ma-athon," so *everybody*...all the faculty and many of the students...will be there (defenses used to have a much smaller audience and rarely had people from more than your own sub-disc).. i'm not as nervous as i could be...i've done several different (smaller) presentations of my research both on campus at brown-bags and on-campus grad student conferences and at 2 national meetings, so i've had lots of practice.. the only bad thing is, out of a bunch of students the whole day, i'm the very.

  here's to hoping they're ready to leave and *not* that, since there's nobody speaking after me, they can grill me for as long as they want .

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  Good luck to you. Last year this time, I finished mt JD. No thesis defense, but the bar exam loomed. In the end, looking back, I enjoyed being at the bar exam (but it took little slivers of a "relaxant" to calm me down). Sometimes, others catch me still studying for it, even though I don't have to anymore. If you truly love what you studied, you too ill find yourself doing the same thing. Enjoy the day. This is a huge moment for you. Shoshana
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  Pythagoras wasn't crazy after all!!!!

  by Sunnygal41 in

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  as some may know, pythagoras had a theory that the planets made music.......today, i saw this article and wanted to share it............. .

  sun's atmosphere sings .

  jeanna bryner.

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  La Capra

  "If you pluck a guitar string, you will hear the music." This is the flawed statement in the article. The process of noise (or sub-noise, as the case seems to be)creation is in no way the equivalent of "making music." That would be the same as saying when I spilled flat latex paint on my floor last month, I made art. I too get frustrated by pseudo-science trying to slip a higher meaning into stuff that just doesn't exist. Pythagorus figured out other cool stuff though. Shoshana
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  What things did you do through a mtg to distract yourself?

  by FourMs in

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  when we were kids, my best friend and i would do each others hair.

  wed have our barretts and elastics and the whole bit.

  then when we got a little older we used to do our nails nail polish and all .

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  At the Sunday meetings, I would practice holding my breath. Was able to go nearly two minutes by the time I left. I couldn't stay awake at the evening meetings, though. Even when I was a teenanger. This infuriated my mother, which added to the interest. I wrote a screenplay outline and some scenes at the last summer convention I attended. Shoshana
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  The many ways Jehovah's Witnesses harm children

  by under_believer in

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  was talking with my therapist this morning and i made the comment "i guess i don't mind if she is a witness as long as it doesn't harm the kids.

  " this got me thinking about all the ways that being raised as witnesses harms or can harm children.

  1) teaches children to have an air of superiority regarding other human beings.

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  La Capra

  Children are taught to be "conditionally honest." If someone is not entitled to honest information, or if it could hurt them, they are taught (by example and instruction) to lie. Shoshana